"ta" <ta33@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "rick etter" <etterr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>...
> > "ta" <ta33@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> > > rick etter wrote:
> > > > And that means also not cruelty-free. Just what I've been
saying...
> > > >
> > > > "...some organic pesticides have mammalian toxicities that are far
> > > > higher than many synthetic pesticides..."
> > > > http://www.cgfi.org/materials/key_pubs/Natures_Toxic_Tools.pdf
> > >
> > > Wow, I can't *believe* CFGI, which is funded by the right-wing think
tank
> > > Hudson Institute, could possibly be promoting information that
sup****ts
> > > their big agribusiness clients like Monsanto, ConAgra, and Archer
Daniels
> > > Midland, who have everything to lose by the success of organic
farming.
> > >
> > > But to be fair, I can't answer the specific charges as I'm not an
expert,
> > so
> > > I'm expanding the thread to get a wider range of input.
> > ====================
> > OK let's expand it. Here's one from Clemson. Sup****ted by big
business
to
> > you, I'm sure...
> >
> > "...Some organic pesticides are as toxic, or even more toxic, than
many
> > synthetic chemical pesticides...."
> > http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2756.htm
> >
> >
> > another...
> > "...Rotenone is more acutely toxic than many synthetic pesticides.
Chronic
> > exposure to rotenone has been tentatively linked to Parkinson's
disease
in
> > humans. It is fairly toxic to mammals and birds. It is very toxic to
> > fish..."
> > http://www.ontarioprofessionals.com/organic.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I see you have nothing to add to the discussion though. Figures.
Come
on,
> > show some sup****t for claims of organic being cruelty/pesticide free
> > farming.
>
> Who claimed that organic farming was "pesticide free" or "cruelty
> free"? Sounds like a big giant straw man to me.
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Another dodge, I see. Can't refute what I say huh? Try reading the
past
posts for awhile and catch up. That is Always brought up as the
alternative pesticide and cruelty free.
>
> > >
> > > p.s.
> > >
> > > "The Hudson Institute's IRS Form 990 for the financial year ending
on
> > > September 30, 2001 showed total income of $7,818,439, most of which
came
> > in
> > > large grants. Other known funders include:
> > >
> > > Ag Processing Inc
> > > American Cyanamid
> > > Archer Daniels Midland
> > > Cargill
> > > Ciba-Geigy
> > > ConAgra Foods
> > > DowElanco
> > > DuPont
> > > Exxon Mobil
> > > HJ Heinz
> > > Lilly Endowment
> > > McDonalds
> > > Monsanto
> > > National Agricultural Chemical Association
> > > Novartis
> > > Proctor & Gamble
> > > Sunkist Growers
> > > United Agri Products"
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/2uj4k
> > >
> > >


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