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Re: Please answer my ignorant question about manure

by Oz <Oz@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 1, 2007 at 09:33 AM

Paul Ciszek <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes
>
>There are several chemical/biological techniques that could in theory be
>used to turn manure into petroleum-like fuels.  

Yes, methane production for one. This is used at a household scale in
parts of india because burning cow dung loses nutrients, particularly
valuable phosphorus.

>According to one site,
>manure is too pricey a feedstock--it has value elsewhere, primarily as
>fertilizer, and fuel makers would have to bid against other buyers.

It has a significant value as fertiliser, and as a soil micro-organism
food, and as a physical soil quality ameliorator. 

>According to another site with different issues, there are lagoons
>overflowing with unwanted, unusable manure.  

Often its simply stored for the correct time to apply it. Typically
autumn (before an autumn-sown crop) or spring (before a spring-sown
crop). Its a most valuable nutrient and soil amelioration product,
slightly hampered by the high cost of storing and handling it.

>Someone who is no more a
>farmer than I am suggested that the problem could be seasonal demand and
>non-seasonal production.  Since I don't know ****, I figure I should ask
>some people who actually participate in agriculture:
>
>1) Is there a net surplus of manure, or a net demand for it, or both at
>   different times of year?

That depends of location, individual farm and other factors.

>2) Are there farmers currently paying for manure?  Are there farmers
>   currently paying to get rid of manure?

Probably so, particularly in parts of europe with high density of high-
intensity animal agriculture (eg holland) and those with high density of
arable-only (particularly vegetable) production (eg eastern eangland).

>3) Is there any "agricultural waste" (defined as pretty much anything
>   that used to be part of a plant or animal, or passed through the gut
>   of an animal) that is genuinely unwanted and could be hauled away
>   for free, yet whose supply would be more or less predictable and
>   reliable?  (We'll take the jokes about zucchini as already said.)

Almost certainly not, in general. Even straw has a surprisingly high
value just for the fertiliser it contains.

-- 
Oz
This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious.
 




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Please answer my ignorant question about manure
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-11-20 18:44:32 
Re: Please answer my ignorant question about manure
ario <joe@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-01 08:58:11 
Re: Please answer my ignorant question about manure
Oz <Oz@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-01 09:33:11 
Re: Please answer my ignorant question about manure
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-12-03 01:38:36 
Re: Please answer my ignorant question about manure
Oz <Oz@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-03 06:20:45 
Re: Please answer my ignorant question about manure
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-12-05 06:55:07 
Re: Please answer my ignorant question about manure
Oz <Oz@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-05 07:17:20 
Re: Please answer my ignorant question about manure
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-12-07 06:31:43 
Re: Please answer my ignorant question about manure
ario <joe@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-05 13:29:33 
Re: Please answer my ignorant question about manure
Oz <Oz@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-05 18:08:52 
Re: Please answer my ignorant question about manure
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-12-07 06:25:30 
Re: Please answer my ignorant question about manure
ario <joe@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-07 01:15:02 
Re: Please answer my ignorant question about manure
Oz <Oz@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-07 07:31:02 
Re: Please answer my ignorant question about manure
Oz <Oz@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-07 07:33:31 

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