On Jul 3, 10:21=A0pm, Billy <wildbi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> =A0Joe Sallustio <joe_sa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Jul 3, 9:08 am, "Pavel314" <Pavel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > "Billy" <wildbi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > In article <ue2dnRYuYMlWiPHVnZ2dnUVZ_jidn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > "Pavel314" <Pavel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > >> "Billy" <wildbi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>news:wildbilly-1D4F9C.22231801072008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> > In article <UvCdnRXmQOXbUPfVnZ2dnUVZ_vOdn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > >> > "Pavel314" <Pavel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > >> >> I've been googling to find a location that sells furmint grape
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vines
> > > >> >> without
> > > >> >> any success. If anyone knows of a vendor, please post.
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> > > >> >> Thanks,
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> > > >> >> Paul
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> > > >> >http://www.viticlonesupplies.com/id20.htm
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> > > >> > Don't get excited, it looks like you'll be put on a waiting
list=
..
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> > > >> > You might give the University of California at Davis'
viticultur=
e
> > > >> > department a jingle. They might have a line on it (more likely
s=
omeone
> > > >> > who could or has im****ted it).
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> > > >> > If you're planning on making a Tokaj style wine, you had best
le=
arn
> > > >> > about botrytis cinerea, the mold that can turn a crop of white
g=
rapes
> > > >> > into gold or garbage. It is botrytis cinerea (a.k.a. bunch rot)
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that is
> > > >> > responsible for Sauternes, trokenbeerenausleses, and Tokaj.
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> > > >> Thanks, Billy, I wrote to them both. What I want to make is
****pon=
, a
> > > >> Slovenian white wine made from furmint grapes. (In Slovenian, the
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"sh"
> > > >> sound
> > > >> is indicated by an "s" with an inverted chevron on top, but I
don'=
t have
> > > >> that letter available in my email fonts.) Anyway, it used to
=A0be
> > > >> available
> > > >> everywhere in Cleveland in the 1960's and 1970's but just isn't
im=
****ted
> > > >> anymore, so I thought I'd grow my own.
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> > > >> Paul
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> > > > Does it have a varietal flavor or is it the structure (fruitiness,
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mouth
> > > > feel, tannins, ect.) of the wine that you like? If it was cheap,
it=
will
> > > > have been tank fermented (either a lined concret tank or
stainless)=
.. If
> > > > the weather is anything like Germany, the wines may be 6% to 11%
> > > > alcohol. I consider that consumer friendly. What did the one you
ha=
ve
> > > > taste like?
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> > > After 30 years, I remember it as having spicy tones and being very
cr=
isp,
> > > somewhat Gewurztraminer-ish. It was my favorite of the Slovenian
vari=
eties.
> > > I picked up some more recent descriptions on the Web:
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> > > "It has a lively, fruity, almost peppery nose with some grapey depth
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to it.
> > > The palate is really lively and fresh, with an exuberant fruity,
spic=
y
> > > character and a hint of spritz on the bright, acidic finish. This is
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a very
> > > pure, clean, minerally white that's full flavoured but zippy, and
wou=
ld be a
> > > versatile food wine. "
>
> > > "The specialty of the area is Sipon: the must can achieve an
outstand=
ing
> > > content of aromatic oils and sugar, while the acids are less
aggressi=
ve."
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> > > I ordered the last seven bottles of Sipon in stock at Zachys in
Scars=
dale,
> > > NY, yesterday. They may be the last seven bottles in the U.S. I'll
po=
st a
> > > review when they arrive.
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> > > Paul
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> > You could check with Cornell too but Traminette grows well here in the
> > Northeast and sounds very similar. =A0It's my favorite local white.
>
> > Joe
>
> Traminette is a European hybrid (Joannes Seyve 23.416 x
> 'Gew=FCrztraminer). It will be less good than a good gew=FCrztraminer,
wh=
ich
> can be exceptional, with distinctive aromas of rose oil. =A0
>
> I suspect that furmint is more like a good pinot grigio.
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> Billy
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