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Re: costs of feed !

by "Christina Websell" <spamfree@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 5, 2008 at 09:37 PM

" Jill" <news@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:68581gF2rli4dU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Christina Websell wrote:
>
>>>
>>> For yours [age and productivity now]  its probably okay but for
>>> birds in production, even pure breeds, that would cause fatty liver
>>> syndrome. Its slow but fatal
>>
>> I disagree,
>
> Its a known fact with many research projects over many generations to 
> prove it.
>
> Highly productive strains of chickens, particularly the commercial, but 
> including the pure breeds, cannot process larger amounts of wheat. [or
any 
> high carb / high fat diet]
>
> Fatty liver is a well researched condition, which 'can' affect all birds

> but its particularly an issue the more productive the birds.
> Having seen what happens to the liver in post mortem, yucky gooey soft
and 
> squi****ng, and seen the hard fat deposits that the body has put down in
an 
> effort to handle the fat overload,  I would not want to inflict it on 
> birds, and its something to guard against for string laying strains.
>
> If you have found something that works for your birds its great, my 
> warning was simply that this is not a good feeding regime to choose for 
> good productive birds in general
>

I would not do this if I had had hybrids, Jill.   My experience has been 
since the late 70's that pure breeds do not suffer if if there is some
wheat 
mixed with their layers pellets.    I think that's long enough to get an 
idea if that's okay.  Your view obviously differs.
There is no fat overload on my birds, no fatty liver, they do not need a 
post mortem as mainly they die of old age 10+ and they often lay now and 
again until this age.

Tina
 




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" Jill" <new  2008-04-27 10:27:36 
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"shnuz@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-27 13:18:38 
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" Jill" <new  2008-04-28 08:19:38 
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Steve Newport <steven@  2008-04-28 14:10:31 
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" Jill" <new  2008-04-28 17:32:57 
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"Amy Blankenship&quo  2008-04-28 11:51:26 
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E Gregory <uepmeg@[EMA  2008-04-28 15:17:18 
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" Jill" <new  2008-04-29 08:51:27 
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"Christina Websell&q  2008-05-03 20:44:58 
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" Jill" <new  2008-05-03 22:36:11 
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"Christina Websell&q  2008-05-04 00:39:56 
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" Jill" <new  2008-05-04 08:49:58 
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"Christina Websell&q  2008-05-05 21:37:46 
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"Jill" <mail  2008-05-05 22:14:44 
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"Christina Websell&q  2008-05-07 21:46:03 
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" Jill" <new  2008-05-07 23:44:35 
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A_ L _P <hay_hell_pea@  2008-05-08 19:09:41 
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" Jill" <new  2008-05-08 09:57:03 
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A_ L _P <hay_hell_pea@  2008-05-08 21:21:13 
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" Jill" <new  2008-05-08 10:53:38 
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A_ L _P <hay_hell_pea@  2008-05-09 00:55:38 
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"Christina Websell&q  2008-05-09 00:11:09 
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"Christina Websell&q  2008-05-21 18:41:07 
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" Jill" <new  2008-05-21 20:37:11 
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"Christina Websell&q  2008-05-25 01:51:06 
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" Jill" <new  2008-05-25 08:17:51 
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"Christina Websell&q  2008-05-26 01:59:25 
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" Jill" <new  2008-05-26 18:59:56 
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"Christina Websell&q  2008-05-28 22:19:40 
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pecan <pecanNOSPAM@[EM  2008-05-27 18:07:44 
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"Christina Websell&q  2008-05-28 22:05:46 
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"wafflycat" <  2008-05-28 23:47:05 
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"Christina Websell&q  2008-05-29 02:49:28 
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pecan <pecanNOSPAM@[EM  2008-05-29 08:43:30 
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ooptec <ooptec@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 17:28:32 

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