"Christina Websell" <spamfree@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> " Jill" <news@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Christina Websell wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> For yours [age and productivity now] its probably okay but for
>>>> birds in production, even pure breeds, that would cause fatty liver
>>>> syndrome. Its slow but fatal
>>>
>>> I disagree,
>>
>> Its a known fact with many research projects over many generations to
>> prove it.
>>
>> Highly productive strains of chickens, particularly the commercial, but
>> including the pure breeds, cannot process larger amounts of wheat. [or
>> any high carb / high fat diet]
>>
>> Fatty liver is a well researched condition, which 'can' affect all
birds
>> but its particularly an issue the more productive the birds.
>> Having seen what happens to the liver in post mortem, yucky gooey soft
>> and squi****ng, and seen the hard fat deposits that the body has put
down
>> in an effort to handle the fat overload, I would not want to inflict
it
>> on birds, and its something to guard against for string laying strains.
>>
>> If you have found something that works for your birds its great, my
>> warning was simply that this is not a good feeding regime to choose for
>> good productive birds in general
>>
>
> I would not do this if I had had hybrids, Jill. My experience has been
> since the late 70's that pure breeds do not suffer if if there is some
> wheat mixed with their layers pellets.
Your view and experience is in a small number of birds and breeds. No
criticism, but only useful for your birds.
What was written above is not my "view" but well researched science in
productive strains of pure breeds, where it was observed long before the
hybrids were created.
My warning was to others who have strong productive pure breeds, or
hybrids,
for whom an extra third of wheat in their diet is clinically proven to be
a
bad thing to do.
I respect your choice to provide the husbandry you choose for your own
birds.
--
regards
Jill Bowis
Domestic Poultry and Waterfowl Solutions
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine Nursery
Seasonal Farm Food
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
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