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>>>>> Does anyone actually do this any more? Is it something a small
>>>>> producer could learn to do on their own or does it require a
>>>>> veterinarian? Storey has a brief explanation of it in his book but
>>>>> does not mention anesthetic being used. Is this cruel to cut open a
>>>>> bird without pain control?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's now illegal in the UK.
>>>> And yes, of course it's cruel to cut open a bird without pain
>>>> control. I'm surprised you asked.
>>>> Imagine it for yourself and then you know what is right for your
>>>> birds.
>>>
>>> I guess raising meat birds is out, then ;-).
>>
>> Why?
>
> "Imagine it for yourself..."
>
> I haven't met anyone so far who's remotely interested in having a knife
> stuck into their brain or their jugular cut. OK, there are some sickos
> out there, but _most_ of us would say "no way."
>
Have you deliberately misunderstood me?
There is a vast difference between killing a bird and subjecting it to
abdominal surgery without anaesthetic, or pain relief while it's
recovering.
I've had abdominal surgery twice myself and let me tell you morphine was
involved. When it began to wear off, well, I wouldn't wish such pain on
my
worst enemy.
Caponization by surgical means (or even chemical means) has been outlawed
in
the UK for many years. We don't declaw cats, either to save our
furniture.
That's illegal too.
I get the impression you thought my original post was amusing. Did it
make
you laugh to think that I objected to a bird being operated on without
pain
relief? If so, I don't understand your sense of humour.
Tina


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